Hi,
So ive put up with this problem for a while now and finally gave in to the frustration of taking so long to move a single widget across the page on the widgets page.
I did the whole go though every widget to find the problem and found yours to be so. And so I began to use less of certain widget from the bundle to minimise the usage to a minimum but yet its working harder according to the P3 Plugin Profiler.
I have a lot of widget but i’ve never had a problem with the plugin before and I think it was the update that set it off.
So i’ve tested the widget on the P3 Plugin Profiler and its usage in the history has been at 3-4% and now it up to 9-10% but yet I use less of it, doesn’t make sense?
Anyway please help!
Thanks
Hi TheLifeAdmin,
As you disable more and more things the total usage of existing things will increase due to there being less overall things present.
Just to clarify, what is this issue exactly? You’ve mentioned p3 and that suggests a performance issue but then your first line doesn’t really work with that as a one time load shouldn’t make moving widgets around a massive annoyance.
Hi Alex,
The issue is petty really but its buggy when you go onto the widgets page and use the widgets. The page takes ages to load (double the time if the plugin is activated compared to when its deactivated) and when your on the page it takes ages to move a widget across the page or make any changes on the page. Its not so much a performance thing, that just happened to be something I noticed when looking for a solution to why the plugin is affecting the page so much.
You’ll see what I mean when you have a look yourself, I have given you access for the other problem.
Thanks
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Hi Alex,
I am getting my theme developer to do some work for me and he came across a large problem resulting in the site origin widgets bundle affecting things on pages and he says it keeps breaking the pages so he’s had to disable the plugin.
can you look into this for me please.
thanks
Hi TheLifeAdmin,
Unfortunately, that issue is related to the SiteOrigin Google Maps widget being present in a sidebar. I would recommend setting the widget as inactivate until the next update which will be within a day or two. Very sorry about this!
If you would like to revert to a previous version of the SiteOrigin Widgets Bundle, please navigate to WP AdminPluginsInstalled Plugins and deactivate the SiteOrigin Widgets Bundle. Then please delete the SiteOrgin Widgets Bundle. Then please navigate to WP AdminPluginsAdd New and upload the previous version of SiteOrigin Widgets Bundle.
it should be noted that as a result of this issue there has been an increase in support delays due to the sudden increase in support requests. I’m going to take a look at your website as soon as I’m able to. I’m very sorry about the delay!
Hi Alex,
There’s been a development through me reading another one of your plugin problems on your site and came across this someone who is having speed problems that you helped, then I remembered that the other day I speed tested my site and the load time was unbelievably 21 seconds and I couldn’t believe it and plus im sure this is when the maps problem was there too but I did nothing about it thinking Il sort it when the site gets launched BUT then I though id try it again and now its 10/11 seconds and then disabled the widgets bundle plugin and it halved to 4/5 seconds and then having done it twice I repeated it 4 more times to confirm its wasnt a fluke after 6 times and its not – so looks like the plugins is having grave effect on page speed too.
I have done everything you said to do in that thread, and the only result I got was when I re-activated the contact form 7 plugin after deactivating all plugins but then once I reactivated all plugins bar contact form 7 it was semi problematic so I couldn’t work out if it was the culprit or wasnt. and then I re-activated it and the page speed went up a little but that based on the page speed already up from the other plugins activated and having said that I cant tell because It could be the cache plugin working again. its a mess.
Please can you have a look!
Thanks
Hi TheLifeAdmin,
Sorry for the delay.
So I took a look at your widgets page when the SiteOrigin Widgets Bundle was disabled and just now (I enabled the SiteOrigin Widgets Bundle temporarily), and I see what your issue is on that page. It’s related purely to the number of widgets you have on that page. Due to how WordPress handles that page… basically, everything is loaded into the browser at once – regardless of context. So that means when you have as many widgets as you have you will have (browser) performance issues while editing it. If you wish to improve performance on this page you should look into plugins that make modifications to how this page is handled.
Your latest reply is very unlikely to be related to the thread you linked to. That user never contacted me after his final post but I can assure you there are no widespread performance issues with the SiteOrigin Widgets Bundle and we make performance improvements where ever possible. I strongly believe his issue was related to his server. I’ll be the first one to admit that there are slight overheads associated with running our plugins due to the complicated nature, but overheads happen with any plugin. I strongly believe your performance issues are not related to our plugin. Here are a couple of tests I’ve just run.
PageSpeed Insights – Unreliable for performance measurements but regardless it makes no reference to the page load times. It does however state that “Your server responded quickly” ()
Pingdom Full Page Test – A reliable method of tracking performance due to the waterfall chart (it basically tells you exactly how long everything took to load). You’ll notice your website connects in under 1 second. What however extends it are the assets and the page markup itself. You simply
GTmetrix Test – Another reliable method of tracking performance, albeit not as reliable as pingdom as GTMetrix tracks for far longer after the dom has finished. The page takes under a second here also.
If you wish to improve your on page performance you need to reduce your overall DNS requests. 53 requests per page is far too many. Consider looking into minifying files.
Hi Alex,
Thank you for having a look into it for me.
It was just a thought regarding the page speed, although it does seem to affect page speed but all plugins do.
The thing is everything was fine for a while, I had it all the plugins set up and everything was working fine regardless of how many widgets there are – it was all working and then it not and I update any new plugin that requires the need to do so when the update comes through so in my eyes it has to be an update.
I have chosen these widgets specifically because they seamlessly integrate with one another or are meant to anyway and I did it this way to avoid this complications and from experience of using bad plugins so I always went for plugins based on high reviews and good reputations and every thing has been fine for ages and then its now not, and it doesn’t make sense because I have changed nothing, added nothing, moved nothing or done anything since the beginning apart from create pages and make menus.
You mentioned “look into plugins that make modifications to how this page is handled” could you elaborate on this and tell me of some tips and tricks or plugins that could help?
Regarding the page performance of site and that I need to reduce my overall DNS requests. I completely understand as will defo pay a professional as it way over my head that kind of stuff.
But thanks again for trying
Hi TheLifeAdmin,
Sorry for the delay.
You said:
You mentioned “look into plugins that make modifications to how this page is handled” could you elaborate on this and tell me of some tips and tricks or plugins that could help?
Sadly I can’t recommend a plugin for this. I remember recently seeing a client’s website with a custom widget area which separated each widget into its own page and didn’t catch the name – I wish I had though. This was a one-off client, so I’m unable to find them again to ask them. :( Sorry! I know it’s out there, I just can’t seem to find it.
I can however recommend doing whatever you can do to reduce the number of widgets on that page. If you can replace two widgets with a single widget, you should. I hate to say this but, you basically just have way too many widgets to allow for decent performance with the default interface. :(
I’m sorry I couldn’t be of more help. :(
Hi Alex,
No prob, I’ve already looked into it and the plugin is called WP Page Widget but it makes no difference to page speed or usability when sorting widgets out. I also came across other forums of people in the same situation as me with a vast amount of pages that have widgets – its a wordpress problem that they basically cant handle the amount of pages that need widgets for a big website.
So for the time being im stuck with waiting on the page to do its thing, also I think having a plugin (addons) for a plugin (widgets bundle) doesn’t help either seeing as when I disable your plugin the page is fine.
Anyway its a fight for someone else to battle with a little more experience than me with the genetics of plugins and how they run!
Thank you for helping me!
All the best!