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Pagebuilder menu not in single item pages with Origami

By GJZ, 8 years ago. Last reply by Andrew Misplon, 7 years ago.

Elles has a nice website that is based on Origami/Origami-Paper and the use of Page Builder. The only thing that is really bugging her is that the side bar created with the Custom Home Page is not available on the individual pages. Is there a way to get that fixed?

It really looks great but not having that side bar is not great. With static pages you can add the home page by copying the html content to a tekst widget. You cannot properly modify it with the WYSIWYG style but it works.

With read-more pages and single pages you cannot do this. Now the big question is how to add the same home page style to those pages as well.

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  1. 8 years, 2 months ago GJZ

    If you like to see this in action.
    Home page layout build with Page Builder (5 stars for Page Builder)
    Website: http://greencoconut.nl/

    Static page with added Prebuild Layout (removes WYSIWYG from back-end but it works)
    Staticpage: http://greencoconut.nl/over/

    Design is not applied to the individual pages unfortunately nor can you assign them:
    Individual page: http://greencoconut.nl/nieuws/what-the-heck-is-in-my-bag/

  2. 8 years, 2 months ago Andrew Misplon Hi, I Work Here


    We do have a sidebar planned for a future release of Origami.

    As you’ve mentioned, on pages you can add a sidebar via Page Builder, you could even use the Pre-Built Layouts (paintbrush icon) button to clone other pages that already have the sidebar.

    To gain a WYSIWYG editor in Page Builder or any widget area please try: http://wordpress.org/plugins/black-studio-tinymce-widget/

    It is also possible to clone a page layout from within a post. You just can’t currently clone the layout of posts.

    • 8 years, 2 months ago GJZ

      Hi Andrew,

      Unlucky her that it is not available yet. It would be very great if in a future release you can set the home page layout for all other pages. This would make it for simple users worth a donation / purchasing a premium upgrade. I am not sure if that works with Origami-Paper as well since that is a child theme. I probably would pay it for her because it is a nice utility!

      For me Page Builder is more important then the Themes themselves. I rather pay for Page Builder because that has made her website much more functional. Just my two pennies.

      Keep up the good work and I hope to see some news soon for the sidebar soon.

  3. 8 years, 2 months ago Andrew Misplon Hi, I Work Here

    You are able to set the home page layout for other pages, just only on a page by page basis. Add a new page and head over to the Page Builder tab, then click the Paint Brush icon and select to clone the home page.

    Thanks for your other feedback, all noted.

    • 8 years, 2 months ago GJZ

      I remember trying this on the blog pages but I believe the side effect is that it shows up in your blog roll on the home page. Something really odd happened when I tried that with an older release. This may be fixed already. But what is more important is that you loose the WYSIWYG interface on the blogs. You get a pop-up flat text editor instead of the WYSIWYG editor. For a blogger not a good situation to be in when your focus is to post blog content.
      So yes it is possible, but the price in lost functionality is too high for her. Over time it becomes also too hard to maintain when you have hundred blog posts and your sidebar is outdated then you have to make changes to all of them to fix it. That is a lot of work when a blog grows. For a few static pages I don’t worry about it but for (read-more) blog pages I would.

  4. 8 years, 2 months ago Andrew Misplon Hi, I Work Here

    But yeah on the whole what you need here is a sidebar to be added to Origami. Please keep an eye out for future updates.

    • 8 years, 2 months ago GJZ

      I will. Thanks you.

  5. 8 years, 2 months ago Andrew Misplon Hi, I Work Here

    Just to go back to your second last message. http://wordpress.org/plugins/black-studio-tinymce-widget/ will give you a Visual Editor in Page Builder. However you’re right to say it’s not a good idea to go and manage all of your Blog posts in Page Builder. But if you need a Visual Editor (WYSIWYG) for your pages using Page Builder then definitely try out the Black Studio widget.

  6. 8 years, 2 months ago GJZ

    I did try this because you suggested this as a solution. I disabled WP Editor which I use for its richer abilities to edit themes and content to avoid dependencies that may impact TinyMCE. Then I tried the TinyMCE widget. Unfortunately it does not solve anything. When I open the Pages, All Pages, Edit, Tab PageBuilder. I can see the WYSIWYG and Text tabs but when you make any changes in those tabs it does not change anything in the page itself. It always falls back to what is inside the Text Widget. Inside the Text Widget there is no editor available and that is plain HTML. Is there something wrong with my PageBuilder layout that causes this? If you like I can email the screenshots because they cannot be attached in this conversation.

  7. 8 years, 2 months ago Andrew Misplon Hi, I Work Here

    Can I confirm. In Page Builder have you inserted a widget called Visual Editor and managed content in that widget?

  8. 8 years, 2 months ago Andrew Misplon Hi, I Work Here

    Also to confirm. You need to either use Visual/Text tabs OR Page Builder. You can’t manage content moving between the two. Once you manage content in Page Builder you need to stay in that tab and work there on that given page/post.

  9. 8 years, 2 months ago GJZ

    I found the solution already: A Visual Editor Widget must be added at the location where the current Text Widget is. Then you can copy the HTML from the existing Text Widget to the Visual Editor as HTML. Then remove from the Text Widget from your PagerBuilder layout and you have a WYSIWYG page inside a widget.

    With that I am quite happy. I just have to make sure that Elles as blogger knows how to use this as long as there is no other more structural solution.

  10. 8 years, 2 months ago Andrew Misplon Hi, I Work Here

    That’s correct. But I’d again voice my concerns about managing posts in this manner. A better solution would be to create a child theme with a sidebar.

  11. 8 years, 2 months ago GJZ

    And indeed Andrew, you have to put the visual Editor Widget inside the PageBuilder layout and not just anywhere. I forgot to highlight that. Other two tabs cannot be used for changes anymore to make changes. You have to be very strict where you work and where to make changes after using this. This only works when you only use the PageBuilder tab. This may not be the right solution for just everybody but in this case Elles is smart enough as blogger to know where to look. We have a workable solution where content can be updated by the blogger and that is important.

    For people creating this from scratch: use Andrew’s method to add the pre-build layout to the PageBuilder tab in your page or blog. Then copy the HTML from your Text tab to the location of the Visual Editor Widget on the PageBuilder tab. If this Visual Editor Widget is not available you have to add that first. I would add this to the base layout to keep things simple going forward.
    Tip: Although this is very powerful, you want to avoid having too many different layouts around for easier maintenance. And remember that if you change something important in one of the elements that you must repeat this for all pages it is used. When changing a widget it will not apply to the other pages where this layout is applied to. With power and flexibility comes responsibility.

  12. 7 years, 10 months ago freshwater

    i have no sidebars. how do i get the black studio tinymce widget or any wysiwyg editor working in the main content page we see greg showing us in this youtube instructions https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL6iIV7JxLo
    i can get the tinymce working in Widgets section when i drag it to a sidebar area but this is a global area for all pages. how do i activate a wysiwyg, for example, on the “Pages > New Page”, like greg’s youtube example? just like GJZ, when i switch from the PageBuilder tab to Visual or Text, make a change, Update, no changes are kept. my pages have no sidebars, i’m using greg’s theme Vantage, with just the content we create on the “Pages > New Page”.

    thank you!

    • 7 years, 10 months ago Andrew Misplon Hi, I Work Here

      Hi freshwater


      Your sidebar will appear when widgets are added to the Appearance > Widgets: Sidebar area. The sidebar will appear as follows:

      Blog/archive page
      Single post pages
      Any pages using the Default page template.

      So your home page won’t show the sidebar unless you change it’s page template to Default.

      Page Builder:

      It is not possible to edit Page Builder content in the Visual/Text tabs. You can only edit Page Builder content in the Page Builder tab.

      Once installed, Black Studio TinyMCE is called Visual Editor, that is the widget you need to insert to get TinyMCE in Page Builder.

      For further help please open a new support thread.


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